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Sooooo… the portal. Let talk about the portal a bit. Cause its one of the most interesting things in the show and its not discussed much.
First off how does one MAKE a portal. or rather, how does a human make one? A ghost like wulf or dark danny can use their powers to do it, and portals also happen naturally. But how to you force one open with machines. I would assume you need some ectoplasm to get it started…but where in the world did jack and maddie get ectoplasm before the portal was working. heck how did they even know there was a ghost world, instead of the more conventional “ghosts are just invisible and intangible wandering earth”. Jack says that he had never seen a ghost before seeing danny at the school in MM, so he cant have collected ectoplasm from a ghost. Now I can see how electricity would be part of the equation because ghost activity is supposed to spike during things like thunderstorms. But it cant be that alone…
Ive heard some theories that you can get a working portal buy “catching” the portal made by a person who died and becoming a ghost. but if thats the case, maddie and jack couldnt have known this…unless they planned on murdering someone. So their design cant have been based around that. The proto-portal seemed to be a functional design, but that portal didnt have the long containment tube that the new design has, it was pretty much just the bit that is at the back of the version 2 portal. (ignoring the diet soda retcon, because the seemed added for laughs). So the design seems to work without killing someone (cause vlad was not IN the portal, it fired up before hitting him).
I think that jack might have at some point either have seen a natural portal, or head accounts of one. that would be where he got the idea for a portal, but i still cant figure out where he would have gotten some ectoplasm.
I dunno, what are you thoughts on the portal?
Dude yeah if something dies and crosses over into the ghost zone, what if the ghost portal like grabs the corners of the hole and tears it wider and holds it open? I bet the Fentons thought they could just “punch through the veil” but perhaps the portal’s not quite that strong… it needed something to start the process, which would be Danny dying, and then the machine forced open the portal Danny created, which is what they have now.
Question is why did Danny survive? Maybe because his portal to the ghost zone was disrupted it chucked his soul back into his body?
I tend to think of Danny more as a ghostly artifact, though, kinda like Dora’s amulet or something, which has ectoplasmic properties without actually being a ghost. *shrug*
*whips out SoaD excerpt*
They had never figured it out, not really. They had just assumed that it had been a matter of a loose wire, an unturned switch, a delay In sequencing. They were wrong.
It had taken that bridge—a literal link between life and death, a living being in the process of dying—to bridge the gap between the two dimensions. Danny had been the key to unlocking the Ghost Zone, whether he’d realized it at the time or not.
When she had first begun her research into the paranormal field, she had studied its history. Uncertain and superstitious as it had been, there was always a pattern when those old mediums had accessed the Ghost Zone. Death. Immediate and directly linked to the summoning or banishment. Animals, and at times, humans were struck down in these ancient, arcane rituals.
The act was said to bridge the gap, however instantaneously, between death and life and open the door between dimensions. It was the shift of energy from that of the living, brain patterns, to that of the dead, ectosignatures.
Maddie had dismissed the idea as brutal and archaic, determined to find a clean, modern, perpetual mode of access to the other dimension. She had even been proud of the fact. They were the first to do so successfully, after all.
In reality its creation had been dependent on that very same rule of passage into death. And Danny had taken the brunt of that sacrifice.
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My personal headcanon is that the Fentons had to go to really remote areas to search out recurring natural portals and harvest what traces of ectoplasm they could find, then refine it into something usable. Which is why they’re able to doubt the existence of ghosts, probably part of the reason why it took them a couple of decades to build a second portal after the first one, and also why Mads is so comfortable with roughing it via machete. Once the portal was built they had a permanent, pure source of ectoplasm and these expeditions were no longer necessary.
I bet they had some pretty crazy/awesome “family vacations” when Jazz and Danny were younger tho.
omg i love this idea. Fenton family road trips, to collect ectoplasm sample. Im sure the kids would have gotten wrangled into do some work. I bet they had weird chores as kids…
Ive always liked to think danny had a better reason for not telling his parents about his ghost powers. I think that after their son being in a bad accident, tensions would be a bit high, especially considering this isnt the first time this sort of thing has happened. Dannys shown to be afraid of his parents separating, so if he overheard them fighting about the portal and the accident, about how danny could have been killed, I think he’d clam right up and pretend nothing was wrong.
I think maddie would have said something to jack about vlad and danny being hurt by the portal. I mean come on…this happened TWICE. you’d think they would have upped the safety after the first time.
Oh, good point!
What exactly happened with the accident, anyway? We know the Fentons know about it since Jazz says “ever since the accident” in MBK, and if we’re going by the theme song he woke up in ghost form and had enough time to flip out over his freaky reflection without getting caught.
So we can assume his parents (and Jazz) were out of the house when it happened, long enough for him to change back to normal, but with the portal activated (and Danny possibly injured/out cold again), it was inevitable he’d be found out. So what did Danny/Sam/Tucker tell the Fentons? The truth (minus the weird ghost form part)? Some watered-down version, like that Danny just got shocked from the outside?
Either way I think ectoimp has a point, as parents they’d be terrified and probably livid, both at each other and at Danny (he should know better than to play with their inventions). Don’t blame him one bit for keeping the whole “I might be a little bit dead” thing a secret.
yesssss. Jazz makes it sound like it was a big enough deal to call “The Accident”. thats why i dont take memory blank as canon…he just gets right back up like it was nothing.
I take the opening theme as canon, and MB as a retcon. In the opening, it looked like he was alone in the lab, which makes the accident worse, cause no one was there to help him. His parents probably came home to danny out cold on the floor of the lab. One of the worst sights a parent can come home to.
(hnng i really want to write a more realistic take on DP, but im such a bad writer hnnnnnnnnnng
Here’s a pretty amazing realistic take if you don’t mind reading an incomplete fic.
I liked MB, because I think the idea that Sam talked him into it makes sense (his parents probably warned him not to, but he wants to impress his friends) and it was kinda fun to have an origin episode.
How about this? Memory Blank was a rewrite of history through Desiree’s ghost powers, right? Desiree’s no time ghost, so instead of diverting the time stream and erasing the original reality, she just overwrote it.
It’s like making a second painting on a canvas that already has an image on it. It looks totally different, but in some places the old reality “bleeds through”, like Sam and Desiree remembering what happened, the invention of the Specter Deflector, the portal being open and active. Even Danny’s photos have a blank space in them as if they ought to have a third figure.
So Danny getting his original ghost powers wasn’t truly erased from reality, just overwritten. Danny had still technically become a half-ghost, and then was manipulated by Desiree’s ability to be powerless and have no memory of it. His body had still been through that experience and “remembered” being a halfa.
Danny was already “primed” by the first accident. Just being introduced to an intense amount of ectoplasm (like in PP) made him automatically revert to being a halfa. So while it was still painful, it wasn’t as hard on Danny as the first time and he was able to walk away from it.
…or maybe that’s too convoluted, I dunno. ^_^;
Reblogging for haikujitsu’s comments at the end because SO VERY YES
I hadn’t really thought about it as in-depth as she has, but I think that’s exactly how I saw MB. The second getting his powers was different because it wasn’t real. I agree that it was probably a much more traumatic accident than that.
I have a bit of headcanon that ties that to Danny not knowing that Tucker was afraid of hospitals while Sam did. That struck me as really odd at first because Danny and Tucker have obviously been tight since early childhood, while Sam seems like a newer addition (she didn’t know about Danny’s issues with Christmas, they didn’t know she was rich, Tucker didn’t know what a Recyclo-vegetarian was). So it seemed strange that Sam would know something about Tucker that Danny didn’t. But if Sam and Tucker were there when the accident happened and Danny was taken to the hospital, who would be in the waiting room together? Sam and Tucker. So who would get a chance to see Tucker’s fear of hospitals in action? Sam, not Danny.
OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG that makes so much sense it hurts.
Ever since the accident he had felt exhausted. Not a normal kind of exhaustion, this wasn’t normal tiredness. It wasnt just that his body felt tired, it was something else, something that hadnt been there before the accident. This something needed, something. Everything about this new feeling was vague and undefinable. Danny hated it. After a few days of relaxing in his room, he started to feel better, as though the something had recharged itself. Now that it was stronger, Danny was able to feel it more clearly. Well, feel wasnt quite the right word, this was a new sensation, a new sense. He could see it in his minds eye, it was a ball of cool light. It sat somewhere in the middle of his being. The light from the ball was unsteady, and its shape unstable, contorting and warping before trying to return to its normal sphere shape. Danny pushed the image out of his mind, picking up a video game to take his mind off of it. He was feeling better and thats all that mattered.
After a while of playing, he suddenly jolt up and clutched at his belly. There. The ball was there, and it wasnt containing its energy anymore. Danny watched in horror as tendrils of light left the unstable ball and became “real”. He could see them with his eyes, flowing out of his body. In a panic he tried to will them away, but they kept coming. He ran into the bathroom connected to his room. He locked the doors and fell to the floor. The energy wasnt hurting him, but it felt weird and alien. The energy sputtered erratically, consuming parts of his body. Where the energy touched, his body changed. Where there had been jeans, there were suddenly black jumpsuit pants. His white t-shirt be came a black skintight suit. Finally the energy subsided after consuming his whole body. Danny picked him self up off the floor, staring after his hands which now had an eerie glow. Turning to look in the mirror, he saw the same figure he had seen right after the accident. He had hoped it hadn’t been real, that he hit his head and imagined it. But there he was, with white hair, unnaturally green eyes and pale greenish gray skin. Then Danny noticed that he had stopped breathing, and he couldn’t feel his heart beat. As he began to panic the energy appeared, this time moving back to the ball. Danny fell to the floor breathing heavily, and feeling drained.
He knew what the ball was, his parents had told him about it many times. It was a core, just like the kind found in every ghost. His heartbeat was back, and the core glowing steady. What the hell was he?
eh im not to happy with the lines on this one, but i will keep experimenting. If im gonna draw a comic, i need a way of doing line art that is fast, but still looks nice. This was super fast…but looks like ass.
Anyway, I always wondered how danny discovered he’d could transform. I mean, sure he saw his ghost form after he woke up, but I think he would have assumed it was a one time thing, and how would he know HOW to transform. I think that really early on, he would transform against his will. His core was probably really weak and unstable, and so it would occasionally let off energy. His core would quickly stabilize and this would no longer be a problem, but by that point he would be aware of how to call upon his ghost half. He also wouldnt be able to hold his form for any long amount of time. In MM he can barely maintain it for a few minutes at a time.
at the start of the series Howard doesn’t have much personal drive or ambition, he makes Randy come up with plans; both him & Randy laugh at the idea of him doing anything. He takes naps. He figured out a system that worked and let him be lazy haha, even if Randy’s ideas were bad. But thru the series Howard proves he’s immensely capable and now gets mad when Randy assumes he can’t do something (he laughed about it in first eps!), when Randy insists this-or-that about him, because Howard KNOWS he can do so much. Sorta, Howard’s created his own problem haha, he’s trained Randy to expect nothing of him so he can get away with doing nothing but NOWWWWW he needs Randy to believe that he is 110% capable.
The ninja thing is affecting Howard as much as it effects Randy, not in just the obvious ways of him getting irritated about it…. it’s forcing Howard’s capability and potential out. Which has always been there but seeing it being used is 8U!!
Howard used to operate at like 10% capacity, while Randy has always been at 100%. I think Randy thought that 10% was Howard’s 100, so when Howard starts whipping out his real potential Randy goes “WHO ARE YOU”….
Howard changes in other ways but I have to go do something rn 8U!! I CANT talk more but later! Howard’s development is really interesting to keep track of, re-watching it. He’s more mature than ppl think.
im always so proud of howard
AU where Phantom is literally Danny’s disembodied spirit and when he ‘goes ghost’ his body just shloomps on the floor and basically that’s how he gets a reputation for ‘sleeping’ in class
#like randy when reading the nomicon #but my favourite thing about this is imagining sam and tuck having to hide danny’s body from parents/ghosts/teachers/vlad #and danny waking up like ‘oh my god guys why did you have to put me in a fucking dumpster’ #another thing i like to think about is their initial reactions when danny falls out the portal #ehehehe
#horror episode where mr lancer finally calls him out on this but he doesnt move #the entire class tries to wake him up but nothing happens so they assume he’s dead #in the last second he wakes up in a sharp gasp #everybody’s scared shitless of him ever since #you go danny (via:notdannyphantom)
i fucking love this phandom
#How about he has to be in his ghost form for a few days and wakes up in his own coffin #hey why is it so dark in here? #OH HOLY FUCKING SHIT #NO DON’T!!! #OH GOD I AM STILL ALIVE LET ME OUT! #and he bursts out in the church or even at the funeral and everyone is staring at him #his parents breaking down #chaos everywhere (via: ghostbadgers)
Yes. This is a thing that needs to happen immediately.
No for serious, like right now would be good, Danny’s entirely speechless, He has no idea how he can even begin to explain, HE’S BEEN DEAD FOR OVER A WEEK, his friends even started to believe he wasn’t coming back this time, Everyone’s crying, And he just stand’s there, shellshocked, After a moment it sinks in, and his parents start to back away from him slowly, Their relief at seeing their baby boy again pushed away with realization, 'What the hell are you?, 'what are you and what have you done to our son?', They reach for their ghost weapons, always on hand, always prepared even in mourning, 'Mom,Dad, it’s me I promise’, He pleads with them, backing away, Bumping into the coffin, His own coffin, With a feeling of horror as he realizes how it all must look, more importantly, What he put them through,'Our son is dead, let him rest in peace.’.
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1 / idek how many bc he’s literally a nerd all the time
i’ll prob be making a lot more gifs now that i have a mac! yeehaw
This movie looks so friggin cute I had to
quickie abmh doodle
need to get my mind away from yowapeda for a sec
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